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Info-Mac Digest             Wed, 15 Sep 93       Volume 11 : Issue 182

Today's Topics:

      [*] FS-ATC-201-update.sea.hqx
      [*] Talking Clock Pro(tm) 2.0b0
      [*] TidBITS#193/13-Sep-93
      (A) Getting MacTCP Address
      : bootp for the Mac? and  (Q) Getting MacTCP Address
      After Dark modules
      AppleScript Speech Extension Quesiton
      Best word processor for a thesis...
      Conflict Catcher II
      Create/edit icons and other resources..
      cricket-graph III
      Electromagnetic Shielding for a Monitor (A)
      EtherPortSE installer images?
      Excel 4 slow loading (Not for us)
      Fast-finder
      Font Problem (C)
      Ghost External Floppy(A)
      Ghost external floppy drive--help! (R)
      Good customer support from InterCon [C]
      Hard drives for old MacPortable (R)
      HP DeisgnJet Plotter
      Info-Mac Digest V11 #179
      Info-Mac Digest V11 #180
      I think they mean "eject" comment?
      Lemur posting
      Looking for suggestions re: disk defraggers...
      Macs---To Leave on or not?
      MacTCP 1.1 and System 7.1 (A)
      MountImage and Installer (C)
      need OCR and quicktime ed.
      NewsWatcher for Systems 6 and 7 Available
      Pathworks V1.2 compatible with NSI 1.4 ? (Q)
      PoP Sserver for AFS file system under HP/UX 9.0.1
      postscript to EPS tranlators
      Printing Postscript Files
      public domain stat and spreadsheets
      Quadra 840av problems....
      Quicken 4 Report Crashes
      Screen text capture  (Q)
      Serious GateKeeper problem? (Q)
      sumex directory org complaint (comment)
      System 6/7 Shared Laserprinting (A)
      System 6/7 Shared Laserprinting (R)
      System Enabler 201 v1.0.1
      the new directory organization
      Tools for glossary maintenance
      Using Speech Recognition (Q)
      Video (TV) Display on a Mac?
      What Happened to All the Shareware Listings?

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Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1993 22:13:06 +0300 (EET)
From: Miika Asunta <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] FS-ATC-201-update.sea.hqx

FS-ATC-201-update.sea.hqx

contains

an update to FS-ATC, an air traffic control software for MicroSoft
Flight Simulator 4.0 Macintosh version, that fixes an incompability
problem between Plaintalk extension and FS-ATC, which caused a bomb
or a system freeze in FS-ATC 2.0 version.

This self-extracting archive does not contain the controller files or
complete documentation.
---

[Archived as /info-mac/game/arc/fs-atc-201-updt.hqx; 178K]

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Date: Sat, 4 Sep 93 20:45:15 +0200
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] Talking Clock Pro(tm) 2.0b0

For those that had problems with Talking Clock, and also those who
wanted something that talked without a clock window, and those who
wanted different keys for talking, and those who wanted talking
more often, and those who wanted AppleScript support, and those who
wanted anti-aliased clocks, I hereby present:

Talking Clock Pro(tm)

and immediately place it and the source in the Public Domain. This
version supersedes any previous versions up to 93-09-04.

Cheers,

                    / h+

--
 -- Jon W{tte, [e-mail], Mac Hacker Deluxe --
    Hackers push all the right buttons.

[Archived as /info-mac/app/talking-clock-pro-20b0.hqx; 64K]

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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 93 22:42:16 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: [*] TidBITS#193/13-Sep-93

TidBITS#193/13-Sep-93

This issue comes chock full of news about Adam's new book,
   InterNews 1.0 (a slick MacTCP newsreader from Dartmouth),
   new system software for the Newton, information on developing
   for the Newton, and Rupert Murdoch buying Delphi. Finally,
   you'll find additional details about various energy saving
   utilities, more problems with the Apple Adjustable Keyboard,
   and thoughts about what kind of service you can expect from
   a solvent Apple dealer.

Topics:
    MailBITS/13-Sep-93
    User Expectations
    MessagePad System Update
    Developing for the MessagePad
    Adjustable Keyboard Problem
    InterNews 1.0
    Reviews/13-Sep-93

[Archived as /info-mac/per/tb/tidbits-193.etx; 30K]

--
Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor -- [e-mail] -- [e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 13:13:52 -0600 (PDT)
From: Irving Wiswall <[e-mail]>
Subject: (A) Getting MacTCP Address

> I need to locate a tool that will allow me to get MacTCP addresses over the
> network.  InterPoll allows me to get AppleTalk addresses, but I need
> something that allows me to do the same, but with MacTCP addresses.

InterPoll will show nodes both with their name and with their MacTCP
address if you have LIST ALIASES turned on (in the options menu).

With LIST ALIASES turned on, an entry is created for each network function
the node is performing. If you have lot of net functions running (MacTCP,
fileshareing, Timbucktu, etc.) you'll get lots of entries for each node.
This can be a pain, and is why I think most people have LIST ALIASES
turned off.  But if you display things sorted by node, what you want is
there.

Or use MacPing (demo version available in the archives, I think). It will
also display these other net functions, but you have to mouse down on an
entry to get it to display.  Not as convient for what you describe, I think.

-Irv Wiswall   [e-mail]


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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 11:34:45 +0000
From: Fearghas McKay <[e-mail]>
Subject: : bootp for the Mac? and  (Q) Getting MacTCP Address

Thomas

Try finger 1.3.5 or later available in your local sumex site, or umich.

>From Peter Lewis

>
>Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1993 08:25:59 -0400
>From: "Tom Scott" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: <[e-mail]>
>
>     (Q) Getting MacTCP Address
>I need to locate a tool that will allow me to get MacTCP addresses over the
>network.  InterPoll allows me to get AppleTalk addresses, but I need
something
>that allows me to do the same, but with MacTCP addresses.  I've had a number
>of

    &


>A faculty member asked me the question below:
>
>>Do you know of any freeware or cheapware for Macintosh that will allow the
>Mac
>>to look up its IP address on a server?
>

-=-=-=-=-

Cheers

Fearghas

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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 02:30:29 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: After Dark modules

Since the release of DarkSide of the Mac, and the arrival
of a lot of other products that can play After Dark modules,
interest in writing the modules has grown - helped in part
by the competitions that promise big rewards for your work.

A mailing list for people wanting to write After Dark
modules has been set up. There's an ftp site as well. This
way, starting code can be easily shared and you can get
feedback on the modules you've written from experts at
writing them.

To join the list, just send a message to:

[e-mail]

and you'll be put on the list.

Lloyd Wood
[e-mail]
Author of the Screensaver/After Dark FAQ.

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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 17:04:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (W.K. Fry)
Subject: AppleScript Speech Extension Quesiton

I purchased the AppleScript RunTime Kit a few months ago and now have
PlainTalk up and running, but I'm still waiting for an AppleScript
Extension to use the two together.  I noticed that the AV's at the local
computer store have an extension, but where can I get it?  Will it work
if I don't have the Speech Setup Control Panel to set the standard
voice?

I resorted to writing my own one weekend, but it occassionally crashes.
If anyone has any advice, I'd appreciate it.

Likewise, I'm wondering about the AV's Finder being scriptable. . . I'm
still using AppleScript's FinderLib.  How does one get the scriptable
Finder if the have both System 7.1 and AppleScript?

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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 11:08:54 +0100
From: [e-mail] (John Williams)
Subject: Best word processor for a thesis...

In digest #181, Mike Kazlow (MICHAEL KAZLOW [e-mail] OR
[e-mail]) writes:

>If you need a program with thbest tech support around Wordperfect would be my
>>next choice, since Word does not support numbering of tables and figuires.

    I agree with that, and WP *does* handle numbering tables and figures

>Wordpefect 3.0 is due next month, as should provide cross platform support,
>and >finally provide a easier interface than the present version.

    Does anyone know if WP will *finally* do tables (as the DOS version
has for the last 'n' years....)?  It's going to be intersting to watch WP 3
and Word 6 slog it out in the marketplace!


John Williams

(INRA Station de Recherches Avicoles, Centre de Recherches de Tours, 37380
Nouzilly, France)

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Date: 14 Sep 93 08:05:00 EST
From: "G.BOCCANFUSO" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Conflict Catcher II

In a recent issue of Compuserve magazine I read about an INIT demo for
Conflict Catcher II. Since I am not a subscriber to Compuserve I can not
access their library to download. Can anyone tell me if there is a copy
at sumex and if so in what directory? I've looked but being a fairly
new newbie and the rearrangement of the directories I could not find it.

Thanks

George Boccanfuso
SDarnia Ontario
Canada

That's suppose to be SARNIA.

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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 06:13:46 -0800
From: Kevin Pfeiffer <[e-mail]>
Subject: Create/edit icons and other resources..

What's the recommended way of designing/editing/producing mass quantities
of icons, including non-standard sixed ones?

Is there a version of resEdit that supports a greater number of paint
tools? I've seen a program called "Icon 7"--only distinguishing feature is
that it has a text tool that works inside an icon.

Can PhotoShop be set-up to display the individual pixels (as resEdit does?)

Last question--what's the best technical guide book to
modifying/creating/using cicn, pict, & ditl resources for a
"non-programmer" who _needs to know_!?

Many thanks!

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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 93 11:59:27 bst
From: Mark Elliott <[e-mail]>
Subject: cricket-graph III

can someone please tell me the version number of CG III (latest version)
 - does it fix the bugs in version 1.01 that i heard about a while ago ?

should i buy CG III, or stick with cricket graph 1.3.x ?

any comments will be helpful, please reply direct

thanks

Mark Elliott

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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 09:06:54 -0600
From: "Bill Wing" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Electromagnetic Shielding for a Monitor (A)

A couple of people pointed out that the company I was looking for is NoRad,
and Tom Scott pointed me to their current ads (p69, Aug. or p192 Oct. '93
MacWorld).  (Thanks Tom)  Michael Jensen has a similar problem and asked me
to post the answer.  NoRad is still in the business of manufacturing
shields of several designs, at least one of which appears (from the add) to
be what I'm looking for, a Mumetal frame that clamps around the sides, top,
and back of a CRT like a big set of ear muffs.  Shielding 60 Hz magnetic
fields is harder than shielding either static magnetic fields or electric
fields at any frequency.  The shield has to be a high permeability material
(like iron) so that it can "absorb" the field but has to also have low
coercivity and retentivity (like Mumetal) so it can follow the fast changes
in the field.  A short conversation with a salesman at NoRad (310-605-0808)
produced the information that their frame system is indeed Mumetal and they
do sell them for curing 60 Hz magnetic field jitters.  I'll order a couple
of their kits and report to anyone interested.

------

I received several responses from people that would seem to indicate a fair
amount of misunderstanding out in the community about shielding CRT's, so
in the hope of laying some of it to rest (and maybe help shield a CRT or
two) I'm adding the pedantic parargaph below.  Anyone not troubled by a
jittering CRT should skip the rest of this.

It requires a surprisingly small magnetic field to shift the image on a
CRT.  As everyone knows, an electron beam is deflected by a perpendicular
magnetic field.  For a beam at any particular velocity, the product of the
radius of curvature and magnetic field strength is a constant.  The graph
in front of me says that this value (H-rho) for a 10kev electron beam is
roughly 300 Gauss-cm.  Thus, a half Gauss field (roughly the earth's field)
produces a 600 cm radius of curvature for this beam.  If you track this
along the 30 or so cm distance between the electron gun and screen of a
typical large-screen CRT, you discover the beam is deflected 0.7 cm, or a
bit over a quarter of an inch.  This is a static deflection which shifts
the whole image as a unit. Thus it isn't particularly noticable (big screen
CRTs have centering controls for just this reason).  But now consider the
case where one has 200-300 Watts of florescent light overhead, wired in
worst-case fashion, with roughly two or three amps of current flowing in a
big loop formed by the tube(s) and the feed wires (I'm assuming the feed is
off to one side of the fixtures, as frequently happens, and they are all
wired in parallel).  A loop with a couple of meters area, a meter and a
half overhead will produce a 60 Hz field approaching a hundreth of a Gauss
(10 mGauss).  This doesn't sound like much (it is fifty times weaker than
the earth's field), but now it is jerking the image on the screen back and
fourth 60 times a second.  A Macintosh screen is typically scanned 68 times
a second, so what your eye sees is an image that swimms back and forth at
the difference frequency of 8 times a second.  The peak to peak motion is
one eighteenth (two times 1.4 times a fiftyth) of the static deflection
mentioned above or about a seventyth of an inch.  Again, this doesn't sound
like much, but it is one sixth of the width of the character in a nine
point font, and it is "swimming" at a frequency your eye is *very*
sensitive to.  Your eye can see, and object to, much smaller jitters than
this.  The *only* way to kill such jitter is to either shield the tube or
null out that external field with a set of coils (also powered by 60 Hz
line current) which can balance out the field over the volume of the CRT.
Believe me, except in extraordinary circumstances, arranging nulling coils
is more trouble than it is worth.

                    Bill Wing

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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 13:27:46 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Dieder Bylsma)
Subject: EtherPortSE installer images?

As the subject says, I'm looking for the EtherPortSE installer images. They
used to be on Shiva.com's ftp site, but they are no longer there because of
Dyna's take over of that section of Shiva (or so I understood the readme
file). If any of you have a copy of the installer image (shouldn't be a (C)
problem since it can only be used on EtherPortSE cards which are
proprietary by nature), could you please send me the info on how to get
these images quickly?

Thanks,

Dieder

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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 14:43:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Me chief, slinging bull." <[e-mail]>
Subject: Excel 4 slow loading (Not for us)

The last message in info-mac had a letter asking anyone if Excel loaded slow
for them in 32 bit addressing.  Having used Excel intensively, I find it not
to be slow on startup at all.  We run it on a Quadra 700 with 20MB RAM, and
a IIci with 8MB and an LC III with 8MB RAM.  We have an enormous toolbar file
( >350k) to load!  Try upping the memory allocated to Excel, that will help
it out a lot in all tasks.  Also, are you using global macros? Add-ins? auto
open files?  These take extra time to load.  Our Quadra loads 8 add-ins, two
macros and toolbars on startup in 15 seconds (timed).  Quitting is a
different story, however...

Good day from Oak Ridge, TN!

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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 09:10:41 +0100
From: [e-mail] (John Williams)
Subject: Fast-finder

    My recollection is that this program was commercial, but it may
have passed into freeware/shareware since.



John Williams

(INRA Station de Recherches Avicoles, Centre de Recherches de Tours, 37380
Nouzilly, France)

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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 93 12:27:39 MET DST
From: Christian F. Buser <[e-mail]>
Subject: Font Problem (C)

Jeff Luck <[e-mail]> asked:
>I have a user using System 7.1 and the latest version of Adobe Type
>Manager. He says he's having problems with some of his older fonts (or as
>he says, "The oldest fonts."). I believe these are Adobe Type 1 fonts from
>about 1987 or 88. Generally, the Macintosh seems to have problems
>consistently kerning the fonts and will not allow sizes other that those
>that are installed to be used.

Don't know if it helps, but try converting the old font suitcases into new
ones using Font/DA Mover 4.1 (this is the version which works with system
7). There seems to be some difference between the "old" and the "new"
suitcase structures.

Best regards, Christian       [e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 10:13:03 EDT
From: "Jeffrey N. Fritz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Ghost External Floppy(A)

Alexander M. Davis asked:
AD> My SE/30 seems to be convinced that it is connected to an external floppy
AD> drive; every few seconds I get a "Disk unreadable" dialog with a picture
AD> of an external drive. This happens even when I start up with a floppy,
AD> both systems 6 and 7.

This may be solvable another way, but we had an SE that exhibited the
same symptons (always wanting to format a external drive that wasn't
there.)  The solution, unfortunately, was a mother board replacement.
:-(

Jeffrey Fritz
West Virginia University
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 93 05:29:16 PDT
From: [e-mail] (John Thoo)
Subject: Ghost external floppy drive--help! (R)


[Gordon, you might want to archive this.]

On 13 Sep 93 Alexander M. Davis <[e-mail]> wrote:
> My SE/30 seems to be convinced that it is connected to an external floppy
> drive; every few seconds I get a "Disk unreadable" dialog with a picture
> of an external drive. This happens even when I start up with a floppy,
> both systems 6 and 7. Basically I can't do anything. Does anyone have an
> idea what might be going on? Please respond by email, and thanks in
> advance...

Alex, I had (still have) the same problem with my SE/30.  I was told by info-
mac readers that, according to Pina's _Dead Mac Scrolls_, the problem is a
burned out Bourns filter on your logic.  Apparently, if you're handy with a
soldering iron, then the fix is not too dear; otherwise, a replacement logic
board is in order.  Because I'm not handy with a soldering iron at all,
myself,
I would have had (still have to) replace the logic board, except ...

I've been meaning to post this for some time, now, but just never got around
to it.  Please find attached instructions by Mark Nutter (who's given me
permission to post) to hack your System to hide the problem.  Note, this hack
only _hides_ the problem, and does not solve it.  It's a wondering hack that
has allowed me to continue using my Mac until I have saved enough money to
replace the logic board, something I intend to do in about two years.  (Yes,
I want to hang on to my venerable SE/30 ;-)

So, without further ado, here 'tis.  I hope this helps.

--John.
<[e-mail]>    ``Still discovering the power of FullWrite.''

 ---------------------------------cut here-----------------------------------
WARNING:
=======

According to Mark Nutter, this has only been tested up through System 7.0.1
"tuned."  Of course, you should have a backup of your System in case of errors
(after all, even if you make no mistakes, your System file would still be
corrupted if, for example, there was a momentary power failure while you had
it open with ResEdit).  Furthermore, implementing this hack prevents you from
initialising a floppy disc using your internal floppy drive.  My work-around
is to use DiskCopy 4.2 disc images of blank floppies to `initialise' any new
floppies.



Organization: Indiana University of Pennsylvania
X-Envelope-To: [e-mail]

Ok, here goes:

First you will need a copy of ResEdit, preferably version 2.1 or later.  If
you
don't already have it you can get it via anonymous ftp from ftp.apple.com in
the (I think) /dts/mac/tools/resedit directory.

Normally, I would caution you to work with a copy of your System file but in
this case your file may be too big to make a copy of, and anyway you said you
had a backup of it, so that should be sufficient to protect you in case of
problems.

So, boot up your Mac and get ResEdit running.  (Think of it as a new arcade
game *wry grin*)

Once you are in ResEdit, File menu -> Open.  Open up your System file.  This
will give you a screen full of icons representing the various types of
resources stored in your System file.

Look for the resource called PACK and double click on it.  This will give you
a
list of all the PACK-type resources in your System.

Find the resource with the ID number 2 and click once (not twice) to select
it,
then pull down the Resource menu and select Open Using Hex Editor.  This will
open up a window displaying the PACK 2 resource in hexadecimal form.  (If you
get a warning about the resource being compressed, tell it you want to edit
the
resource anyway.)

Bear with me a minute while I go over the hex editor layout. :)

The hex editor window is generally divided into 3 columns.  The left-hand
column is a column of hexadecimal numbers starting at zero and increasing by 8
(hexadecimal) every row.  These numbers represent the "offset" or distance
from
the beginning of the resource.  The middle column consists of a number of
four-digit hexadecimal numbers which represent the data that is stored in the
resource.  The right hand column consists of rows of mixed characters;
letters,
numbers, and a lot of periods.  This column shows you the same data as the
middle column does, only as ASCII characters instead of as hexadecimal
numbers.

Ok, we are ready to do the "surgery" now.  You should have a Find menu as the
last menu in your menu bar; pull it down and select Find Hex.  A window will
open up with "Search for:" and "Change to:" fields.

In the "Search for:" field, type 4E754E56

In the "Replace with:" field, type 4E754E75

Now click the Find button.  ResEdit should select the letters 4E754E56 on row
0000A8, plus or minus a row.

Click on the Change button (NOT the "Change All" button!), and then Quit
ResEdit, saving your changes to the System file.

That should be sufficient to "lobotomize" the Disk Initialization Package that
keeps hitting you with the "Bad Disk" dialog.  If not, let me know and we'll
try again.  Just be sure to keep your backup System copy safe! :)


Mark Nutter                                  Internet: [e-mail]
Apple Support Manager                          BITNET: MANUTTER@IUP

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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 93 19:30:28 MEZ
From: "Dr. Stefan P. Mueller"
<[e-mail]>
Subject: Good customer support from InterCon [C]

Many complaints about substandard to atrocious customer support reach
the Digest (rightfully!). I want to relate my positive experiences with
InterCon (NFS/Share, free InterSLIP, TCP/Connect II). I inquired about a
MacTCP update. InterCon pointed out that there is an upgrade to
NFS/Share. I ordered by e-mail (saving the rather expensive overnight
shipping charge to Europe) and was offered a key for the demo (available
by FTP) until the upgrade arrives by mail!

I wish more software publishers were as helpful to their customers!

Stefan

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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 93 12:26:31 MET DST
From: Christian F. Buser <[e-mail]>
Subject: Hard drives for old MacPortable (R)

O MH KATA MHXANHN <[e-mail]> asked:
>Anyone know a vendor who can supply a replacement hard drive for the
>old, old, so very old now original portable? Preferable would be
>something internal (obviously, since I could just use the SCSI port)
>which supports the sleep function.

YES there is. Dynamic Engineering has the 40mB and other sizes (I think up
to  200  mB)  of  internal  drives  for  the  Portable. I purchased my RAM
expansion (fits into the PDS slot  and works with an existing RAM  card in
the RAM slot) from them.

The address is:

Dynamic Engineering
435 Park Drive
Ben Lomond, CA 95005
[phone] phone
[phone] fax
1-800-487-4655 orders

Best regards, Christian            [e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 93 14:58:43 PDT
From: [e-mail] (David Valentine)
Subject: HP DeisgnJet Plotter

Does anyone have any experince with one of the New HP designJet Plotters?
    We have a Calcomp Electrostatic Plotter, and was thinking of trying
to convice the group to get a DesignJet (with postscipt).In the discussion
about one, the question of quality and consistancy of large areas of solid
colors was brought up? Do any lines show up in areas of solid colors? Are
the colors conistant from top to bottom?
    Does anybody have the PPD for postscript version? I'd like to look
at the page sizes, and the available features.

dave valentine
[e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 93 12:28:42 CST
From: "Wade Williams" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #179

>I just learned today that our university's HEPP II contract will
>go by the wayside at the end of this month.  According to our Computing
>Services folks, Apple will only renew the contract if the university agrees
>to keep a very large stock of inventory on hand.  Apparently, state
>regulations (ours is a state university) do not allow the university
>to keep large inventories in stock. So we've reached an impasse and
>it appears that the Apple contract and campus Mac users are the victims.
>
>I'm curious.  Have others encountered the same with their universities
>or colleges, or are we especially disliked by Apple?  (Must be us, they
>downrated us from a HEPP I to a HEPP II a few years ago.  :-(  )
>Have other state institutions had to forfeit their Apple contracts
>as well?

Jeffrey,

We just went through this, so I think I can provide a pretty good summary.

There are now two programs:  CPP I and CPP II.

Colleges that were previously classified as HEPP II can qualify for CPP II
with a minimum of fuss.  There is no inventory requirement.  Essentially,
the requirements are:

1)  Provide an "Information Center" where students can come and see
Macintosh demo models, obtain price lists, etc.  This would usually be in
the Computer Center.

2)  Provide some sort of service option.  The university can provide its
own authorized service, outsource it to a third-party, or use a combination
of the two.

And that's about it.  There's probably a few things that I'm forgetting,
but that's the gist of it.

As for CPP I, it requires that the university resell Macs.  That means they
do have to keep some inventory, but the requirements are not large.  The
advantage is, the university gets lower pricing.  They usually sell to
departments at that lower price, but raise the prices to CPP II levels when
selling to individuals in order to recover their costs.  So, individuals
get the same price as before.

There are definitely some points that have to be negotiated between your
university and Apple, but it certainly can be done.  Apple is in the
business to sell computers and not approving a contract for you is not in
its best interest.

As I said, this is a rough approximation of the requirements.  Use it only
for info.  Contact your Apple Rep for complete details.

Wade Williams                    "But the suburbs have no
Network Support Specialist       charms to soothe the

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Date: 14 Sep 1993 11:34:28 +0000 (GMT)
From: "F.J. Lalor" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #180

Thanks for the comments Paul. I did check the Preferences and the Laser
prep item was probably set. However it is always possible that some
creative soul had messed with it - and then reset when all hell broke
loose. We may never know .......

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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 93 19:25:26 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Brian A. Cole)
Subject: I think they mean "eject" comment?

Howdy,
  In a recent issue of the digest, an item
titled "new disk drives - apple propoganda"
started as follows:

] [I think they mean "eject"]
]
] o   New Version of Disk Drive in Macintosh Computers - FYI
]
] Apple Computer, Inc. is scheduled to begin incorporating a new version of
the
] Apple SuperDrive floppy disk drive into Apple Macintosh desktop computers
] starting this month.

Evidently, one of the moderators added that comment on the first line
because the author of the item, [e-mail], says that he
did not say that.

So, assuming that this is correct, let me try to straighten the record
a bit.  The didn't mean "eject", they meant "inject".  The new drives
will lack auto-inject, a feature that grabs the meadia and sucks it
into the drive.  Some other devices that have auto-inject are VCRs and
DuoDocks (not MiniDocks).

If you read the rest of the item, you will see that it explicitly states
that the new drives still have auto-eject.  It's up to you, but you might
want to post something to stop the spread of this rumor you may have
inadvertantly caused.  I do know that there were lots and lots of flames
posted comp.sys.mac.hardware when it first came out that Apple was
considering dropping auto-eject.  In fact, there was such a huge negative
response that I think this announcement may have been designed aprimarily
to reassure people that Macs will continue to have auto-eject drives.

brian

] The new Apple SuperDrive is functionally and electrically the same as the
] existing Apple SuperDrive with the exception of a new manual inject feature,
] which is very similar to the drive used in Apple's PowerBook computers
today,
] and a new protective dust cover that is designed to shield the Apple
] SuperDrive
] opening from floating dust particles.  Macintosh systems incorporating the
new
] drive have a slightly larger opening to the floppy drive to accommodate the
] new
] Apple SuperDrive.
]
] The new Apple SuperDrive continues to incorporate the Macintosh personal
] computer's popular auto-eject and auto-detect features, and accommodates 3.5
] inch high-density and doubled-sided disks.
]
] Significance:
] The new Apple SuperDrive is designed to allow Apple to source industry
] standard
] components.  Apple believes it will be better able to respond to
fluctuations
] in customer demand as well as gain cost efficiencies that should translate
] into
] cost savings to customers.

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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 13:36:01 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Peter Kay) (Peter Kay)
Subject: Lemur posting

>Dear Moderator,
>
>Please replace lemur-27.hqx, in snd/util, with this new version,
>lemur-301.hqx. Thank you so much.
>
>Kelly Fitz


Dear Kelly,

Would you please say what this 670k file does.
There is a continual stream of new readers to the digest and some of us
with memories which are not as good as they used to be.

Alternatively, if it is a lemur sound, why is it a utility?



Peter Kay, School of Information Sciences,     (tel. no. 0707 284 358)
University of Hertfordshire, UK, AL10  9AB     ([e-mail])

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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 09:35:54 PDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Looking for suggestions re: disk defraggers...

Hi, folks.

    NUM Speed Disk trashed my boot drive's directory last night, so I 'm
looking for an alternative optimizer!

    What is the net.concensus w.r.t disk de-fraggers?  If I get enough
replies, I'll summarize to the list.

    Thanks much!  :-)

'til next we type
HAVE FUN!!      --      Jesse

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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 20:42:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Macs---To Leave on or not?

Here is yet another comment for the ongoing discussion about whether
to shut a Mac off when not in use:

I have had two Macs for the past 4 1/2 years a IIx at work and a
IIx -> IIfx at home. I shut the IIx off every day but NEVER turn off
the IIfx (except for cleaning, hardware upgrades, etc.). Neither
has had any problems over that period. If there is any conceivable
risk in either strategy, it is probably component failure due to
electrical transients during startup, but I have yet to see an actual
case of this anywhere.

In regard to disk fatigue, the mean-time-between-failure rate of most
good hard disks these days is > 150,000 or even 200,000 hours. That's
20+ YEARS!! I cannot believe that anyone will use a single hard drive
continuously for that period of time and ignore the vast new technology
that obviously lies ahead.

As far as electricty consumption is concerned, the amount used by
home computers is insignificant compared to the total used by a typical
residence or business.

Bottom line: Leave on or turn off -- makes no difference.

Skip Newhall
[e-mail]

P.S. There is one problem with leaving the machine on: Dust! Huge amounts
     can collect inside the box, thanks to the fan. But if you don't
     mind an occasional cleaning, it's not so bad.

------------------------------

Date: 15 Sep 1993 08:37:03 +0100 (MET)
From: Hans Kroeger <[e-mail]>
Subject: MacTCP 1.1 and System 7.1 (A)

>" Are there any problems running MacTCP 1.1 with System 7.1?

As far as I remember someone mentioned a while ago that MacTCP 1.1 is
compatible with System 7.1 as long as you do not use virtual memory.

Hope this helps...

Hans Kroeger
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 14 Sep 93 12:28:49 MET DST
From: Christian F. Buser <[e-mail]>
Subject: MountImage and Installer (C)

Rob MacDuff <[e-mail]> asked:
>I have used Apple's Disk Copy program to make backup disk images of
>programs (easier than duplicating floppies). However Apple's Installer
>program does not seem to want to run off of the virtual disks created with
>MountImage. This is a real nusiance, does anyone know why?

Works perfectly for me, but I use DiskCopy (shareware from Roger Bates,
available on sumex) to mount the image files instead of MountImage. I
think the "image mounting" capabilities work only after paying the
shareware fee - you get instructions on what to do to tell your app that
it has been registered.

DiskCopy can read Apple's image files. It can also create image files, but
these can not be used by Apple's Disk Copy program. They seem to be in a
different format.

Best regards, Christian            [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 22:48:47 GMT
From: [e-mail] (CountZer0)
Subject: need OCR and quicktime ed.

Help me fellow mac-ites

just got a handheld lightningscan 400, is there any shareware/freeware
OCR software out there in net.land???

also

looking for some freeware/shareware  quicktime editor software, so i can
put sound in quicktime movies.

anyone?

anyone?

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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 02:11:54 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: NewsWatcher for Systems 6 and 7 Available

NewsWatcher is a Macintosh news reading program being developed by
John Norstad at Northwestern University.  The versions of the program
he distributes will run only under System 7.  With his permission,
Brown University is now distributing a version which has been modified
to run under System 6 as well.

The version Brown is distributing, 2.0d13m01, is identical to version
2.0d13 which John Norstad distributed, except for addition of System 6
support.  It does not correspond to the current version John Norstad is
distributing, which is 2.0d15.

To obtain version 2.0d13m01, use anonymous FTP to ftp.brown.edu.
NewsWatcher is in the file:
    /pub/mac/NewsWatcher/NewsWatcher_2.0d13m01.sea.hqx
The THINK C source is in the file:
    /pub/mac/NewsWatcher/NewsWatcher_2.0d13m01_source.sea.hqx
The FTP site for the latest (System 7 only) version from John Norstad
is ftp.acns.nwu.edu.

Brown University developed this version so that we can support news
for all our Macintosh users, including those still running System 6.
We strongly encourage users to upgrade to System 7.  However, on our
campus, it's too soon to require that everyone run System 7 in order
to use the supported news program.

Modifying NewsWatcher for System 6 required a considerable effort.
Also, as John Norstad continues to develop NewsWatcher, it will
become more difficult to modify it to run under System 6.  As a
result, we do not have any plans for modifying future versions of
NewsWatcher for System 6.  We consider 2.0d13m01 a temporary
solution, to allow users more time to upgrade to System 7.

**** IMPORTANT ****

Version 2.0d13m01 is not supported in any way by John Norstad.
Please do not direct questions about it to him.  I'm willing to
support the changes made for System 6, but will not be able to help
with NewsWatcher problems unrelated to the changes I made.

Peter DiCamillo
Internet: [e-mail]
AppleLink: BROWN.MACDEV
[phone]

------------------------------

Date: 15 Sep 1993 08:34:01 +0100 (MET)
From: Hans Kroeger <[e-mail]>
Subject: Pathworks V1.2 compatible with NSI 1.4 ? (Q)

In Digest 179 I posted the following question:

>>>>>>>>>>
Does anybody know if the new NSI 1.4 (NSI = Network Software Installer)
software is now compatible with Pathworks V1.2  ?

Note: NSI 1.3 is not
<<<<<<<<<
Since I didn't get any response P L E A S E take a minute and share your
experiences. I know there is a number of people waiting for an answer to this
question.

Thanks for all replies !

Hans Kroeger
[e-mail]          (Internet)
[e-mail]     (Internet)
[e-mail]  (Compuserve)
PSI%4575455310::KROEGER     (DATEX-P)

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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 09:32:54 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Ben Strehlman)
Subject: PoP Sserver for AFS file system under HP/UX 9.0.1

    We have recently switched to a HP UNIX machine as our gereral
purpose mail server here at the University of Missouri-Rolla. The only
problem we are having with it is that it will not run a pop server for
Eudora correctly. We are running an AFS file system under HP/UX. I was
wondering if anyone out there has  encountered this problem before and has
found a solution to it. Is there a POP server out there that will compile
under HP/UX 9.0.1 running AFS file system?
Thanks,

Ben Strehlman/Macintosh System Programmer Engineer/ [e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 13:51:41 +0200 (WET-DST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: postscript to EPS tranlators

Hello wordwide friends:

    Would anyone know if there are apps that will allow me to translate a
raw postscript file to an  EPS file?
I need sometime to insert graphs obtained on VMS or UNIX machines in
a MS_Word 5.1a document. Those file are postscript files that could be
downloaded to apple laserwriter using the "LaserWriter Utility" tool.
When I try to  insert the same file in a MS-Word 5.1a (using "Insert Picture")
I got the following message :
--      converting EPS file
--      Invalid data in conversion file

I get the same error if I try to insert a postscript file saved with the
Macintosh itself

Please contact me directly via EMail.

Thanks in Advance,
Angelo MAGGIORA  ([e-mail])

------------------------------

Date: 14 Sep 1993 13:27:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (steve jaffe)
Subject: Printing Postscript Files

There have been several questions recently about how to print postscript
files, such as those received from unix systems with the suffix .ps, which
would be printed on a unix box by using lpr.

I have used both ShowPages and DropPS with success.  Both are free from
sumex-aim.

One common problem seems to be that many .ps files contain the command
"setduplexmode" which causes a laserwriter error.  The solution is simple:
run the file through a text editor and delete all "setduplexmode"s  (note-
there may be  more than one.)

I discovered this problem because DropPS, when it failed, actually printed
out an error message on the printer; ShowPages failed, but gave no
indication of why.  This is about the only major difference between the two
applications that I've noticed. One other difference is that ShowPages uses
the usual background printing system via the PrintMonitor, so you can do
things like delay the printing, etc.; DropPS uses its own system, which
doesn't afford these features.  On the other hand, DropPS does give a
progress bar, which ShowPages doesn't  (and since the PrintMonitor thinks
the document is one page long, there's no way to see how much is left to
go.)

Thanks to the authors of these very useful utilities,
Takahiro Sumiya, Hiroshima Univ, Japan, author of ShowPages, and
Richard Siegel of Bare-Bones Software,1 Larkspur Way #4, Natick, MA 01760,
author of DropPS,
for helping to bring the Mac and Unix worlds closer together.


Steve Jaffe
Math Dept Box 500, Vassar College, Poughkeepsie NY 12601
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 14 Sep 93 15:25:11 CDT
From: Robert Blystone <[e-mail]>
Subject: public domain stat and spreadsheets

Question to the list:

We are looking for a small public domain spreadsheet that has limited
graphing ability and for a very basic stat package that is likewise
public domain.  We have checked the info-mac archives and CD-ROMs and
found the shareware package Mariner.  Mariner is OK; however the
spreadsheet and stat package will be used to support some student
activities and I doubt that they will be inclined to pay the fee.

We would greatly appreciate being pointed towards the two public
domain programs for the mac should they be out there somewhere.
Parenthetically, the programs need to run under System 7.

Thanks for any assistance in this matter.

Blystone in TExas

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 23:31:56 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Anthony F. Gaudiano II" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Quadra 840av problems....

Howdy,

   Question, does anybody know of any incompatibilities of the 840av with
the Apple Extended Keyboard II?  Currently I am having random occurances
of garbage being outputed upon pressing of a letter on the keyboard.  This
phenomenon repeats itself for a while and then just up and stops.  Don't
know what is causing it or even if it can be traced to any one key.
However, what essentially happens is this: I press a key and randomly it
will shoot out a line of garbage much like that which you get when you
have line noise except, I am not using a modem to be able to dismiss it
as line noise.  It can really be frustrating when you are trying to type up
a letter or use SoftAT.

Also, does anyone know whether Apple's Hardware System Update 2.0 is
necessary with the Quadra 840av?

Finally, is there a list of control panels/extensions/applications that
will not work with the 840av available?  I try to always use the most
current, but I may have missed something.  Or how about a list of things
that do work?

Thanks to any responses in advance.  If there is enough interest, I will
post a response to the respective nets.


Anthony F. Gaudiano II
A troubled 840av owner...

Tenet: [e-mail]
Internet: [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 14 Sep 93 19:47:12 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Fred Condo)
Subject: Quicken 4 Report Crashes

I've recently run into a problem with Quicken 4's reporting
function. Doing a search on (restrict by) the Memo field from the
Transaction Report makes the Mac crash. This happens mostly with
one particular file, but other files make it happen, too. This
happens on a Centris 650 and a IIcx, both running System 7.1, and
turning extensions off doesn't help.


The crash manifests itself in several ways, but it seems that
Quicken writes garbage into memory when this function is invoked.
On two occasions, it wrote a block of garbage into the SCREEN!


Intuit technical support is stumped; they asked for copies of my
files after they couldn't replicate the problem. I even
reinstalled the software (to no avail).


Intuit technical support tells me, by the way, about two other
bugs in Quicken 4. First, adding to the list of goals (for
portfolio accounts) doesn't work right; neither do reports
subtotaled by goal. Second, for some files, Quicken 4 cannot "Save
a copy..." Instead, it displays an alert with the cryptic error
message:J"Error. Can't add , it already exists."J(The space before
the comma is not my typo; it appears in the message.) AJ
maintenance upgrade is in the works to fix these and other bugs
that Intuit didn't tell me about. They are currently taking names
and addresses of people who call in about these problems. Intuit
technical support's number appears in the Quicken 4 User's Guide
on page 408.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 15:08:59 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Michael A. Ney)
Subject: Screen text capture  (Q)

I need to capture screen text from terminal sessions.

I'd prefer 'not' to modem in (due to transfer rate limitations).
Does anyone know of an app which will output this session to an ascii file.

I'm not talking about capturing a picture of the desktop.  I need actual
text.

Thanks.
 ------------------------------------
Michael A. Ney
Gettysburg College

[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 09:31:31 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Chris Pepper)
Subject: Serious GateKeeper problem? (Q)

    I've been installing GateKeeper 1.2.8 on several machines lately,
and run into a problem on 3 (most are fine):

    On two LC II's and one SE/30, I get notices from GK 1.2.8 that the
System is trying to modify the Finder (SetResAttr, CODE 18).  I checked the
Finder with ResEdit, and CODE resouce # 18 seems to be ApplEvent-related,
so I'm not sure what's trying to modify it or why.

    I sent mail to Chris Johnston last week, but haven't heard from it
yet, and figured this was a likely place to find suggestions and/or
sympathy.

    These 'violations' occur at random intervals -- up to 2 seconds
apart, while using the computer, on the SE/30 and one LC II.  For the
moment, I just installed the Disinfectant INIT, which we normally don't use
in favor of the GateKeeper package.  I don't want to go back to 1.2.7 or
approve this action in case this is important -- not seeing the problem
doesn't guarantee its absence.  It doesn't look like a real virus, and
Disinfectant 3.2 certifies all 3 systems as clean, but I'm not sure.

    All these machines are running System 7 (probably 7.0.1*).
Installed CPs/Extensions are: A/ROSE, KeyAccess, HSU 2, and DW 3.1 on the
LC II's only; Moire 4.01, SoftwareFPU 2.41 (I know it's old), WindowShade,
and Trimmer on the LC II's only, and MacTCP 1.1.1 on all 3 machines.

    Any help or pointers would be much appreciated.


        Chris Pepper                    [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1993 12:29:43 +0930
From: [e-mail] (Nick Spencer)
Subject: sumex directory org complaint (comment)

In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (David Herren) wrote:
>
> Am I the only one who dislikes the "new" organization of the sumex
> directories? I used to be able to find things in under a minute. Now is
> seems I have to search and search and search, often not finding what I want
> and having to send messages to the posters that have mentioned this or that

The new directory organisation is irrelevant to me because of the way I use
sumex.  Here's the time-saving method I use:

1. Simply download the master index file (it's only 0.25Mb in size).
   This is available as /info-mac/help/all-files.txt
   You need only do this once every few months.
2. text search this file for what you want, for example on a UNIX machine
      % grep superclock all-files.txt
   which gives you
      -r    26766 Apr 25 00:21 ./app/superclock-404.hqx
   Obviously non-UNIX people can use any decent text editor to search for
text.
3. Download it from sumex in one easy hit!

Could this be easier?  It saves you time, and saves sumex connect time.  So
now
you see why I wouldn't care if sumex went to a flat directory structure :-)

Nick

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 12:48:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (Jim Schenk)
Subject: System 6/7 Shared Laserprinting (A)

> From: [e-mail] (Roger Oliver)
> Subject: System 6/7 Shared Laserprinting
>
> We have a community of Macs of various types from Pluses to Centris 610s
> that share several LaserWriterIIs over a LocalTalk network. The printers
> are spooled usng the AppleShare spooler. We want to keep most of the
> Plus/SEs on System 6 and the rest on System 7. My question is "can these
> users all share the same printers with and without background printing".
> I've had conflicting advise on this queston. Secondly, if the answer is yes
> "are specific combinations of Finder, Laser prep/driver and spooler
> software necessary; if so which?"

Roger,

There is no problem having System 6 and System 7 machines sharing the same
printer.  All you need is to make sure that all the Macs use the same
version of the LaserWriter driver.  If you use the LaserWriter driver
version 7.0 or higher, you don't need the laser prep file (its built into
the LaserWriter driver itself).  You can just copy the LaserWriter 7.x
driver into the System 6 system folders.

As far as spooling, if you're using AppleShare 2.0.1, it will complain
if it doesn't have a laser prep file on the server.  I don't know if
this is the case for AppleShare 3.0.

Jim Schenk    [e-mail]
University Computer Services
Florida International University

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 14 Sep 93 11:32:30 CDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: System 6/7 Shared Laserprinting (R)

>We have a community of Macs of various types from Pluses to Centris 610s
>that share several LaserWriterIIs over a LocalTalk network. The printers
>are spooled usng the AppleShare spooler. We want to keep most of the
>Plus/SEs on System 6 and the rest on System 7. My question is "can these
>users all share the same printers with and without background printing".
>I've had conflicting advise on this queston. Secondly, if the answer is yes
>"are specific combinations of Finder, Laser prep/driver and spooler
>software necessary; if so which?"

Roger,

Yes, what you want is possible. The main thing you have to worry about
is the version of the LaserWriter dirve. In your case you should make
sure every Mac, may it be running 6.0.x or 7.x.x, have the same version
of the LaserWriter driver.

That should be it.

I hope this helps.

-- Vinko
Vinko Enterprises, Oakville, Ontario, Canada, ALink: CDA1051

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 09:17:25 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: System Enabler 201 v1.0.1

I need to get a copy of the System Enabler 201 v1.0.1 for my PowerBook Duo
230 to clear up some MIDI problems, but I'm unable to ftp to ftp.apple.com
due to the fact that my system isn't on the DNS.  I think it's absurd for
me to have to go to a dealer (75 miles away from here) just to get a 40K
file when I have access to the Internet.  Can anyone help me find an
alternative method of accessing this file through FTP?  I'm in the queue
for FtpMail, but in case that doesn't work for me, I'd like to hear any
solutions you may have.

Thanks,
James McMurry

Please reply to:  [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 18:53:34 -0500
From: Bienvenu Sidney J <[e-mail]>
Subject: the new directory organization

Thanks to all of you out there who replied to my first two info-mac
inquiries.

I have to agree with David Herrin about the new directory structure (IM#180).
It took me a little while to find Superclock myself; I finally found it after
downloading the file list to my account, opening it and searching for the
string
"super."  The file list takes up 25% of the space on my account, so I cannot
keep it on my accoutn for reference.  There should be a directory for control
panels.  Seeing SuperClock in the Applications directory made my mind reel.

That's my two cents.
                    -- Jay Bienvenu
                       [e-mail]

P.S.  Does anyone out there know Rush Limbaugh's Compuserve number?

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 16:52:25 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Tools for glossary maintenance

From:    (Marshall D. Abrams) <[e-mail]>
Subject: Tools for glossary maintenance

I have the honor of maintaining the glossary for a document being written
by a distributed committee.  In addition to proper usage of terms in
the glossary, I need to identify terms that should be in the glossary.

I would very much like to find some tools to help identify technical
terms and phrases.  I do my primary work on a Mac, but have access to
UNIX and Windows platforms.

Sincerely,

Marshall D. Abrams        [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 15:14:21 -0500 (CDT)
From: "F. J. Van Wetering" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Using Speech Recognition (Q)

This seems to be too weird for me... but I keep getting "unimplemented
trap" errors on my NEW Centris 660 AV. I seem to only get the errors when
I have speech recognition ON... when it is shut off (from the control
panel), I don't seem to get these errors.  BTW, I get these errors at
   * Finder level
   * TeachText
   * Remember? 2.3.2

Does anyone else get these?  Any suggestions?  Am I just unlucky?

F. J.  Van Wetering, Ph.D.     INTERNET: [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 14 Sep 93 14:43 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Video (TV) Display on a Mac?

Hi.  I have a user who would like to display a live television image
in a window on his Mac.  He has a Duo 230/Dock w/ 13" Hi-Res monitor.
We were looking at RadiusTV for this purpose, but apparently it has been
discontinued.  We need to be able to connect him to a regular coax cable,
and all he wants to do is view - no storage, editing, etc.  Simple and
cheap would be nice.

Thanks in advance for any ideas.

Jeff Luck
Office of Information Technology
Continuing and Distance Education
Penn State University
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 13:54:14 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Miles Abernathy)
Subject: What Happened to All the Shareware Listings?

I just came out from under a rock and realized that almost no new [*] files
have been listed in InfoMac Digest since issue 175 (Sept 3). I don't see
any Administrivia note saying that new files will no longer be listed, so I
figure that the moderator is probably on vacation. Is that the case?

Miles Abernathy ([e-mail])


[I and Liam were away for almost three weeks, so Gordon burned himself
 out keeping the digest going. He normally archives the files. -Bill]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 14 Sep 93 14:03:01 -0400
From: [e-mail] (The News Manager)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.digest
Path: coos.dartmouth.edu!hades
From: [e-mail] (Brian V. Hughes)
Subject: Re: MacTCP 1.1 and System 7.1 (Q)
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Sender: [e-mail] (The News Manager)
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1993 18:02:52 GMT
Lines: 7

[e-mail] writes:

>Are there any problems running MacTCP 1.1 with System 7.1?

    Yup. There are. That's why you should use MacTCP 1.1.1 with 7.1.

-Hades

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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 93 16:49:20 -0500
From: Norm Weiner <[e-mail]>

Help! I'm trying to trash a font file, but I keep getting the message that it
can't be thrown away because it's damaged. I tried to repair it, then trash
it,
but no utility seems to be able to repair it. I tried holding down the option
key and trashing it; that didn't work. So I can't repair it and I can't get
rid
of it. It's the file from hell. How do I get rid of it? Thanks for anyone's
help.

Norm Weiner
SUNY Oswego
[e-mail]

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